D.I.D - Daredevil, Invincible, Darth Maul recaps

Mark gets whooped up on in every episode. Should he change his name?
Was Darth Maul the best Sith Lord (aside from Anakin) we've seen in live action?
With Jessica Jones' arrival, is the rest of the Heroes For Hire soon to follow in Daredevil?

Who asked for a Michael Jackson biopic?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Welcome to the Three Hokagi's podcast. We're your host, Kay Kreeman Hanif. We're gonna jump right into it. We got a lot to cover today. Let's start with Invincible. Invincible season five, a lot's going on. For those who don't know, last week's episode, they went to Vilchmites' home planet, blew that sucker up, uh they figured out that, well, they thought that the remaining Vilchmites, all 39 of them, fled into the outer reaches of the galaxy, but no one can find them. So it just so happens that uh Mark, his dad, Omni Man, um, come back to Earth just to let people know hey, you know, we don't know where they are, they may be here, we're not sure, but we're gonna set up a um early warning detection device. I don't know what kind of budget they got, but the Dolchramites are already there. So I guess they can't guess they can't do an early detection if they're already here. They're like, well, the it's already calibrated because these in the these 39 Dolchramites are already on this planet. Um Kareem, you've seen the episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Uh so I I didn't see the the last episode. I did see spoilers for it. Um it's it's I do find this season to be less distracting in terms of the side stories. Um, or maybe I'm just enjoying those side stories a little bit more. Um, because for a while when they were showing um Nolan and Alan the alien, you know, trying to gather the forces for the war, I forgot about the side stories with Invincible, um, everyone else. And then when they started showing those stories again, I forgot about Nolan and Alan. So not in a bad way, though, in actually a good way, where I was enjoying, I was caught up in a story that they're fighting, you know, similar characters. Oh, yeah, I like that guy, I like the dragon fight and everything else. And then they get back to the main story. Um, so I I do enjoy the Virtue My storyline. Um, like the the betrayer, um, the way they start, they had to try to stop them with the play. I mean, that was very, even though there wasn't a lot of blood compared to like the subway scene, the other scenes, it was a very graphic scene when you see those bodies piled up, and it's like, oh my God. It almost had me feeling bad for the Vilchamites. And I was like, no, let me back. Let me die that back. But when you you think about it, it's like you know, everything is on the table when it comes to them. Um, because the reality is, how do you stop a race like that? Um, where they're hell bent on destroying or subjugating everyone and everything. Um and so I do find it in terms of the strategy, uh, the way that they've been trying to improve it, I do find it fascinating that they would infiltrate Earth in that manner. Because that seems to be the most logical conclusion as to what they can do. They don't have a great army anymore. Yes, they're very powerful, but people have found ways to stop them. Um, and so I do like how the story is something where you're like, wow, this is really good. This is getting more in depth. Um, the stakes are high, you don't know who's gonna make it, who's gonna survive. Um, where even you know, Eve struggles with her powers. None of that feels like it's a distraction. It doesn't feel like it's like, oh God, can we just get back to something else? Um, to me, this season is very tight. Um, you know, even you know, Monster Girl, um, I forget the robot's name offhand, but them even them getting stuck. This is this robot, ain't it? Yes, exactly. Um getting stuck, it's like, you know, what's gonna happen with them? So I do think that this season is more is tighter. Um, the storylines are more refreshing, the interactions between the characters are more realistic, they're more adult oriented as opposed to just being a graphic show. Like these are real conversations you can see real people having.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

So so essentially it's the most the most down to earth real version of the show. Like it's the yeah, the most down to earth, the most, the most despite, despite what's going on, it's like it's the most one set in reality.

SPEAKER_04 4:14

Yeah. Uh yeah, I can see that. But I mean, I think that's uh aside from like what Kareem said, as far as no, these certain characters having superhuman uh abilities. No, the collateral damage that happens in this show every week, it's pretty much which I would imagine would happen in the railroad where people with all these kinds of abilities throwing cars, aliens coming in and coming into the streets in the middle of random people getting blown up and and you know eviscerated. Whereas you know, we're watching a Marvel movie or a TV show. You know, people there's explosions, but you don't get the sense of people dying. Right. Cars blow up. Okay, well, no, no one's in the car because Spider-Man pulled a person out. So just a car blew up and out of the way. Like I was watching Spider-Man um far from home with the one with uh Jake Killenhall the other day, near on the London Bridge. Like there's all those robots and stuff shooting things up, blown, uh attacking Spider-Man. And sure, the bridge is on fire, things are blown up, but you have no sense of anyone really other than Spider-Man. There's no citizens in danger because everyone's cleared out. It's just him and this one bad guy. Whereas uh in Invincible, everybody go and die. Whole town, whole the whole south side of Chicago felt it in the that first season when uh Omni Man showed his ass. So I was like, yeah, he put him right through the through the L train, just you know, you know, killing people. Um, so with this uh this episode, this most recent episode, while it wasn't a lot of actually, there wasn't any deaths um in this episode, it's just them focus on regrouping, trying to figure out where the bad guys are. Omni Man or Nolan says he's gonna go back out into outer space to the hospital to go look over Oliver and he's gonna take Debbie. So Debbie Debbie's balling because she said, I got the bills and auto pay, don't worry about anything in the house. Um, just no, I'm I'm gonna be with Nolan. We're gonna go check on Oliver. Like, how much money you got in the bank, ma'am? That you you know, all your bills in your auto pay, you ain't gotta pay, you ain't gotta worry about nothing. Debbie is super rich. Maybe Cecil was helping her out a while ago. Like, no, no, you're gonna give your superhero uh um uh victim's fund or widow's fund. Here, just no, keep the uh the checkbook uh stacked up. Um, but no, she uh yeah. So now she goes out. I don't know, Army Man's gone. Only real superhero of any salt on that planet is Mark, and Mark, even though he's invincible, his he gets his guts pulled out, he gets his body you know rocked. Somehow he's still alive.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Yeah, like for an invincible character, he's the he's the worst, yes. That is like he is like watching Rocky, he's blocking everything with his head, like any other superhero show, like he would be gone, like it would be just like your your your superpower is that you could just keep coming back, like dude, you shouldn't be coming back, you should be gone. It should just be, yeah, just I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

It's probably the worst superhero name. Um, it's like bad marketing for him, if you think about it, because every superhero gets that gets the ass beat. I mean, yeah, superman at from time to time. Um, but the name invincible is supposed to be like he gets punched once, you're like, Oh, he's not invincible, he just got hit one time, and we're already like, Yeah, he's a whack superhero. So I think it's the name, he needs a rebranding of his name. If I was his PR expert, um, I would tell him, Don't call yourself invincible because you can land 10 punches, but if you get punched once, people are gonna say you're weak.

SPEAKER_04 7:45

So it's not it's not my thing, it's not so much that he's getting hit, not like he can evade the punches, like he's a flash, that he you know that he can move fast. It's the fact of the level severity of how much that Oliver gets beat up. So it's not like okay, he he is invincible because he he's the last man standing, technically, right? But I mean, you guys, if they had no doctors, I mean he conquest ripped his gut, literally ripped his guts out. Um, you know, the last other episodes when he's he was fought the other versions of himself, you know, he was broken up, bones all popping out, you know, bleeding out his eyes when Thrag was squeezing. So it's like, dude, just just check out but um I I think with this most recent episode when he had the conversation. I'm gonna add the picture to the uh the thing here. When Thrag has this one, like he's it throughout the entire episode, he's having PTSD. Like he keeps seeing these visions of uh the Vilchmines decimating friends or family that he loves, but this time he actually sees uh Thrag, and you know, Thrag sees him, and it's not a um uh an illusion. And Thrag says, Listen, we can live here amongst your people. We promise we won't we won't try to take over. We just want to live, you know, build our numbers up, um, and let us live our lives. No, we can do this the easy way, or we could do this the hard way. I mean, if I was Oliver, I would have said the same thing too, yeah. You got this because me versus you was already not happening. I can't, you know, he flew with all his might and he blocked it with his head and ate that punch. And now you got 38 of eight or 38 others of your kind that's gonna be there too. What am I gonna do? Nothing to feature. The whole planet may just it took only three of them to you know to core through the earth to the core through the Velchemite home world. So, what can 38 do? They can take over every major city in this world and and you know bringing, yeah, right. Yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do. I mean, they're gonna be flying around, you know, actually having relationships like like Nolan was doing, or they're just gonna be the assaulting women all throughout the planet, like like some kind of umbrella academy where like all these women became pregnant on the same day, like what like I haven't read the book, so um, and I know this after the season, the next season next season probably won't come out until late 2027. So I might as well finish the series. Um, I might as well finish reading the comics so that way I don't have to wait for this for the for the for the TV show. But yeah, no, if I'm even not if Thrag presented that option to you, let us stay here, or we're gonna fight this now, which I'm gonna choose.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

I'm gonna let you stay here, and then we're gonna be working on a way to kill you. But like, oh yeah, yeah, everything is gonna seem like sure. You get to stay here, you get to be here with us. No harm, no foul, no must, because we we know what you can do. It's just a little old me. Stay, enjoy, don't break our laws more than our other people do. Um, I'm just gonna you know, be good upstanding citizens wherever you decide to be, and we'll be okay. And then for like the next 10 years, find a way to kill them all.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

Well, that's the thing. Well, let the cream go. The cream, what would you choose? Would you choose what uh Oliver agreed to, or no? You're gonna try to shoot, shoot the fair one with them.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Uh I would I would have conditions on them being allowed to stay. Um, so they can't communicate with each other, unsupervised. Um, so they're not indoctrinated. If they have any kids, the kids aren't being indoctrinated um to want to destroy Earth. Uh you know, just a lot of different things. They have to check in, they have to be registered, but you know they're not gonna agree to that. So we're gonna just take them on. Um, I I think they're too dangerous. Like he said, they can wipe out um people at any time. Um, they're also extremely intelligent. Um, so they would most likely be working on different ways to subjugate Earth and other planets.

SPEAKER_04 11:51

Um Well, it's they said, well, if he's gonna hold his truth though, he said that he was gonna no, he was gonna get in the in a in the Earth's human uh way. That he'll let them do whatever they're gonna do. We're gonna you know abide by whatever laws I have. We'll say it.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

But why? Why would he want to do that? I don't I don't believe that.

SPEAKER_04 12:10

He's uh I think he's just about just building a popular if if he runs into trouble where some more of his actual no full-blooded or pureblooded Vilchemites die as one less person that can go around you know breeding with humans. I don't know what planet they're gonna flee to, like where will they go? Were they gonna go to some other planet? Because Viltramite's homeworld is gone.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_04 12:38

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Now they have a new race going around taking on another planet.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

So that's so you create a meeting registration at com.

SPEAKER_04 12:50

No, are we doing civil war now?

SPEAKER_00 12:52

I feel like Korean you just said that you would be doing like yo, like with with the X on your chest, you were talking about creating a meeting registration at making sense.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

You're saying but they don't have like a professor X or a Magneto to keep them in line. Uh, we already know what they want to do. Um, even after losing billions, they're still the same. So it's you know it's like think of it as the people making the sentinels. We want to know who they are, we want to know who the news are.

SPEAKER_04 13:28

But but um, but also I think the post-credit scene shows Alan gets the special message from uh the guy who created the first uh Black Death or the first plague virus that wiped out majority of the uh Vilchman that he perfected the poison, but it may also take out normal humans as well. So they have a shot to take out the Vilchim, but I feel like you gotta kind of lure some of them off off planet. Maybe if you inject it there, they won't spread it to people on Earth. Because I feel like if you make an aerosol, that can cause everybody to die. So you need to get it off world, yeah, synthesize it and get it off whirl. Um, but one thing I didn't understand is that dude with the the space gun, how long does it take to shoot that drink? Because why wasn't he busting shots out left and right when it was when they went to Belchemite's home planet? I'd have lit that that planet would have like Swiss cheese. I've been riding around and shooting all over the place. So yeah, this is like now something's like I felt I feel like that was a uh a plot hole. Like he could have been from far away sniping these guys, just like lining up, shooting some shots. And I mean he did the one shot though that the boy through the planet, but I feel like he could have done that a long time ago. We got uh three more episodes left. Actually, no, um yeah, three more episodes because I think it's eight episodes this season. So I think I think they have um another another few more episodes to go before we see the season finale of Invincible. But uh going into Daredevil, uh, we finally got to see uh Matt Murdoch uh with Jessica Jones.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Yay, that was nice.

SPEAKER_04 15:19

But then also they also know hint at just not just hint at, but they actually show Jessica Jones' daughter, uh, the one that she has with uh Luke Cage, unless they unless they change around the storyline for the MCU, but as you know, comic-wise, yeah, and comic-wise, you know, she had a daughter with Luke Cage. So we'll see if they reference that in an upcoming episode. Like no, are they estranged parents or are they actually you know work you know living together? Her house was in the suburbs. That wasn't Harlem. Wasn't Harlow.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

It could be the sub it, it it could be Queens.

SPEAKER_04 15:50

I'm fine with that. I mean, we are classy individuals here in Queens, so I could see that. Um but no, um, no, this this this brand of New York City, it's um it's not on the level of Gotham, but no, it's being ran by Mayor uh Mayor Fisk or Kingpin is getting close to it. You know, they got their anti-villain, anti-vigilante task force out there just snatching people up, kind of like Ice. Um, you know, Murdoch and uh Jessica Jones pairing up together to trying to take those guys down. But also what to me was really interesting about this, and I don't follow her storyline in the comics, was that her powers are now fluctuating since she had the baby. She says her powers come and goes. And we saw that when she was fighting, uh that no, she actually was wounded. Um, I think she might have had a broken rib. That's uh uh Daredevil had mentioned that he can sense that she was she was hurt. So she says she doesn't know what's going on with her body, maybe it's going still through some changes, uh, but she says it comes and goes.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

Um I'm I'm excited Jessica Jones is back. I really like the character, um, the actor. Uh the only thing that was locking out hurting it in my mind was you know, I know who's coming next. You know, but I won't get into that. It wasn't in this season, it wasn't in this episode, so I won't I won't even touch on that. Um, but I I do think they they have to be consistent with uh Danielle Cage. I mean, the way she was toying with the you know the bomb, it makes me think that you know she already has or has shown some type of powers. Um, because I don't think Jessica Jones would have reacted so calmly. Um so I think that was just hinting at it. Um, to keep her you know consistent with the comics. Uh but you know, I'm glad she's back. I'm glad that they're escalating um the situation. Uh, you know, New Yorkers, you know, they don't they don't give a damn that the Kingpin's wife just died. They they still don't like the dude. So like again, we pass that now. Let's let's get back to the Kate. Um, you know, so I just I like how things tend seem to be escalating. Um I don't know what the governor's role will be in any of this. Um, I don't even know if she'll be able to, if she's even being played right now. For all we know, we should be being played as part of this role of okay, now I have the kingpin, you know, focus his anger on her. Um, because we know he's not gonna lay down. Um and Matthew Lillard's character, we know he he has to know that as well. Um, so I wonder what else is in store. Um, because I I keep thinking things are gonna escalate in order to add on the defenders. Um, what is going to happen um that requires the defenders to come back together, at least at least in the same scene.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

Yeah, some heavy hitters. Like it's got I'm trying to think if there's I honestly at first I thought that um Matthew Lillard was gonna be working for Hydra. I thought it was gonna be like a Hydra operative or something. I mean, still may, we don't know. It could be either one, like yeah, yeah, it could be, but or um I'm wondering if Daredevil series leads into Spider-Man brand new day. Like now that we see that uh Kingpin's wife is dead, is he gonna reach out to the hand to see if they can use a method to bring her back to life? Um, and that triggers, I don't know if Electra is still around or whatever. I mean, just I agree with you, Kareem. Like, what's gonna bring the um uh heroes for higher out? What was gonna you know they well we know that because uh the Michael Coulter who uh plays Luke Cage had took a picture of himself on set, leaked a picture of uh uh Matthew Murdoch in prison scrubs. So we know he's going to be locked up somewhere. I don't know what season or what episode or where it is, but he's in jail, and so maybe that's why they're gonna have maybe they'll have to have your boy Iron Fist uh play play as Daredevil or have maybe uh even Bullseye may after he gets hailed up, he'll take the role of um Daredevil. Daredevil so that way they can say, Well, um Matt Murdoch's not Daredevil because look, Daredevil's still out and about you know helping people and being a vigilante, so that clearly can't be Matt Murdoch. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Potentially the they potentially could do both. They could have Bullseye and um Iron Fist do the role because this way it's always like you you never really know. So that way, like if you have more people that will that will done that will take on the role while he's in jail, that's great. Um, so most people like it's like, well, where is he? Has he? Is he whatever? Um I was trying to look it up to see if if it's confirmed that this the uh the stuff takes place will lead into it, and like all I get is a stupid AI overview, which I'm like, then I don't trust y'all.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

Yeah, I think they don't tell us because it's you know probably gonna lead into spoilers, so it's like you probably have to wait until Spider-Man actually comes out to put a two and two together. Like, okay, this is I mean, we know they're in the same universe because we've seen them together in Spider-Man inside the She-Hulk and stuff. So uh we know that that all exists, but where in the timeline is this show take place remains to be seen.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Yeah, but they could do a lot. Um I know there's rumors about um, you know, was her name Sadie Singh from uh um Stranger Things, like who is she playing? Um, you know, the red haired, you know, maybe she's playing Ty Foy Mary, which is connected to Kingpin in the comic books, but I don't know if they would connect the two at characters, the two actors in that same romantic relationship from the series. Um I think I even saw some things about, you know, maybe Matthew Lillard is really Norman Osborne. Um just hasn't been revealed yet who he actually is. Uh so there's a a lot of things that could come up, um, which would be very interesting.

SPEAKER_04 22:05

Um, do we do we know uh Matthew Lewis' character's name? I honestly I can't remember called the name what his name was. I just know he just shows up at people's offices telling them what to do. I can't remember if they named him or not. That's because you mentioned they might be an Osborne. I was uh that name definitely wasn't mentioned. I wasn't saying Mr. Charles.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

So that's so they're not really, I don't think they really identify him. It could be like a fake name or just something that he's using. Um, you know, but even in terms of like, and this is just my own fan theory, I'm not basing it off anything. Um, you know, even with the Hulk being in brand new debt, um we know he hulks out at some point in time. What if you know the gamma radiation is what plays a role in Norman Osborne becoming the goblin and this, you know, MCU iteration, or I don't know. It's just a lot of different interesting storylines that I think they could or have already developed. Um, I just don't want to see any spoilers about it. I want it all to be nice surprises, um, even if it's far from what you know all the speculation is. I just like to build them because I think they're really going to deliver. I don't think it's gonna be stringing you along for years and years. I think there's going to deliver something. Because Marvel fans are getting impatient.

SPEAKER_04 23:23

No. Yeah, I feel like uh uh watching Matthew Lillard play this character feels like it's not a far leap from his character and Alex Cross. Like he's still one, like you know, still a villain somewhere, a corporate villain. No, I I got I got these ties to these individuals, I need X, Y, and Z.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

Yeah. Uh maybe he is still Hydra. Like, I think Hydra could work really well. It makes more sense. Well, I'm just trying to think, like, who we got three more. I guess it would depend on what it's the it would depend on what Matthew Lewin, like if there if if he's gonna be confirmed to come back for the next season. Um could this also just be a way to bring in mutants? Possible.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

You know what I mean? Because it's it's he doesn't have to appear in their devil anymore. Um, he doesn't be, you know, uh because there's some reason that he doesn't want to go up the chain in terms of these weapons. So I believe that this is just some side gig that he's running without really any real authorization. Um maybe he works in maybe he works in Madripool. Yeah. Um, you know, even AIM, they they they deal with manufacturing weapons. Um and I was wondering, you know, even though Jessica Jones is losing her powers here and there, um, did she really lose her powers when she tried to punch that agent? Um, some kind of you know, experimental drug that they found in those, you know, in that weapons cache. And now he has some kind of superpowers that we're just not aware of yet.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

Um, either way, she he got cracked over the back of his head and he went down, so his powers ain't full ain't fully uh uh activated yet either. Then but I thought I thought maybe I read it as far as it shows her uh body fluctuating as far as the powers come and go, her invulnerable her invincibility, if you will, or her extra strength is uh hit or miss. Yeah, but I think we have uh three episodes left of Daredevil, so there's still uh I think three, right? Because this is I think this was episode five or week five. I think is I think there's only two left. Oh, two.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

Oh, so it's only I think there's yeah, there's the hate, yeah. There's two left. There's the hateful darkness and the southern cross. That's it. And those one comes out on the 28th and one comes out May 5th.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

Okay, so yeah, two weeks later. So the next two weeks, and that's it. Uh, I've still haven't seen anything of Punisher, so I thought maybe Punisher may have shown up again, but I guess that's not happening. Um, the other side story is with uh White Tiger. Um, I was hoping that we'd eventually see her don the outfit and use her powers, but um, just so that way it gives us more inclination that she may become a young Avenger. But I know she's not part of the young, I don't believe she's part of the young Avengers in the comics, but I at this point, no, they can go far with the young Avengers. I don't care who they are. It's just I like to see if they're gonna develop these characters as opposed to just this is my one little spot to shine, and you'll never see me again, kind of thing. Yeah, um, especially when this deals with New York City, and we know they have so many other established characters, like we don't see anything about the Thunderbolts at all inside of New York City, and this is where you have the anti-villain task force. Uh, I mean, maybe this threat is as much further below them as far as they look at the more global and universal uh uh threats, but still, you know, no mention of them at all, uh, no picture of their tower in in in Manhattan, which isn't too far from where they are they're stationed uh in Hell's Kitchen. But we'll see. Um, you know, this it's Disney Plus. We know things can change rather quickly. But also on uh Disney Plus, I know we have um Darth Maul, Shadow Lord, and I think uh that one we have, I think it was like each week there's two episodes comes out, right? So like it's always uh it's always a new episode. I think this past week was uh to me, it was probably the best episode because it had a lot more um lightsaber duels, and you also got introduced to an inquisitor. Yeah, so that that to me was like, oh, you know, we don't know who the inquisitor is, they don't really give him a name, him or her a name. Uh but you got to see an inquisitor actually uh hunting Maul, and then discovers there's also two Jedi's on the planet, and he's hunting them too, and it's actually a night a good fight between the uh between the three, actually four of them, because Dark Maul shows up as well to fight.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

So, what is what is your take on it so far, considering you going through all the Clone Wars and all the other animated series?

SPEAKER_04 28:14

Uh, I enjoy it. The only thing is with with these prequels, when you have a finite storyline, like we know what happens with Darth Maul. So it's like it takes out the mystery of what's going to happen to him, or how much more can happen to him. Because we know in Clone Wars, uh actually no, I'm sorry, Star Wars Rebels, he ends up getting killed by Obi-Wan and Tatooine. Sorry, spoiler alert, for those of you. Um, but he ends up he ends up getting killed anyway. So it's not so this doesn't take this takes place long before then. This takes place, I think, um this takes place before Rogue One. So this is still before no four move episode four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. This takes place um, I guess before Rogue One, but after but still still before Rebels, because Rebels he dies. This is this takes place after Bad Batch. So there hasn't been a firm um uh rebellion yet against the Empire. So this is I think this is just before or just after Bad Batch comes out. Um, but I like it. I mean, I like it. I always Dartmo was always an interesting character to me uh when we first showed him in Phantom Menace. Um, I'm interested to see more about his storyline here. So if it's only just a one-seasoner or if it's gonna be more than one season, I like to see it. Um because he's not I guess his facial expressions in the paint and the horns make him seem like he's more about aggressive energy, but he seems to be uh a calm individual who sees the the the the Jedi who sees the Sith for who they are, and like there's always an alternative path. Like he had a nice conversation with um Ahsoka in the Clone Wars uh anime series when they had the uh fall of Mandalore. Like he had a good, I mean, even though he was attacking her, but like he made to me, he made sense. Like, you don't need to choose this path, you can you know, you can do something else, and she's like, nah, I gotta be the good guy. Okay, but I like this series so far, and I enjoyed that every week is two episodes, not just one.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

Yeah, yeah. Um, agree. It took me a few tries to get past the first intro scene, never so really uh not because it wasn't good, it was like, whoa, this is nice, and then he comes in at the end before they play the music. Um, but I kept falling asleep right after that. Um, it had nothing to do with the show, it's just you know, starting it late at night. Um, that's what it is. Yeah, it was cozy, quiet, you know, but I didn't give up on it. And I'm actually glad I didn't. Um, because at one side started watching in the daytime when I could, when I got past that scene, um, like you said, the characters are actually very interesting. Um, especially Dolph Moore. He's like, to me, it's like, you know, a character who he was popular because of how he looked when they first showed. And he seemed, you know, badass, like walking back and forth, pacing after just, you know, taking out a Jedi. Um, and then he gets cut in half, and it's like, well, we wanted to see more of him. They didn't really develop him in that movie at all. So it's just amazing how far they've come in terms of you know the path that they set him on. I guess getting cut in half would do that to someone with all the decisions they've made in life.

SPEAKER_04 31:34

Um to Dave Pellone for for for rescuing him out of that place. Exactly. We had cut in half and thrown down as an exhaust pipe or whatever it was, and then and then to uh to bring him back to life and write, oh yeah, we just strapped some metal bionic legs and torso on him. But I gone got you know, got the shimmy shake in the chest, and he's like, Oh, I guess he got done. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

You know, he gets automatics here and there, you know. I can relate to that, you know, it's just fine, you know. But but I I love how they're able to still find that niche. Uh, you know, these are characters who they're not part of the rebellion, they're not part of the empire. They're trying to make do, they're trying to survive, but it's it's touched on every aspect of their life regardless, you know. So, you know, Lawson, you know, he doesn't want the empire there. Um, you know, two boots is just doing what he's programmed to do, basically. You have two Jedi, you know, trying to survive. Um and it's like you have powers, do you still? Do you not steal? Like, we just need food. Like, so it's it's I like how they're they're taking this um and they're turning it into questions of you know, survival. Um, with it is uh, you know, the force, the dark side, light side, um, where they're actually making interesting characters, where it's even like, yo, yo, Darth Moore, are you sure you want to still, you know, pursue this girl? Like the Empire is here, and he still wants to for whatever reason. Um, so I do find it engaging in and of its own world. Um, you know, we don't need to see like the bigger Jedi names or the bigger names for the Empire. Um, the storylines here in terms of what's going to happen to these characters. I think they're doing an excellent job and then making that you know very engrossing. Um so I am enjoying it. The last episode, the action really did pick up, and I'm I'm kind of glad it did. I needed to see more, you know, lightsaber battles. Um I do think this is one of the more enjoyable animated series uh from Star Wars in a while.

SPEAKER_04 33:28

Agreed, agreed.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

So according to Wikipedia, it takes place a year after the events of Clone Wars.

SPEAKER_04 33:36

This is a year. So still okay, so it's before Bad Batch, but after um no, okay, so it's before so it's before Bad Batch then. I thought it was after Bad Batch because bad by the time Bad Batch came out I think there was already a rub, a rebellion force against the Empire, but it wasn't fully formulated like it was with uh um uh andor and rogue one and uh um a new hope. Okay, but again, it's the downside that I know for what is for all this all this energy that he's expelling here, we know what's gonna happen to him. That I think that's one reason I like to sometimes watch uh Ahsoka and enjoy because we don't know what happens to her character, she doesn't exist in any of the live action movies, any mention of her whatsoever. So her, Admiral Thrawn, we don't know what these what happens to these individuals. Yeah, um, so that to me is like and that's I enjoy the but that series similar to Mandalorian Mandalorian as well. You don't know what happens to these people because we've never seen them in the live action films. Uh so there's their stories can still be rewritten. Um I I think that George Lucas and crew didn't anticipate how popular Darthmore was going to be. Uh when they come on, no, they had to have. I'm sorry, there's no. And not just injured him back to for another fight, but I guess you you wanted to push Dooku to be the next uh apprentice. It's like it wasn't the same. It didn't hit to me, it didn't hit the same as seeing more, you know, the the the the castle doors open up, more just standing there with the hood down, like he'll boxer getting ready to go. You know, he puts the sword out two. I mean, to this day, you still know the whole crowd in the theaters, like, oh, because we've never seen a dual lifespan before. And he had an inquisitor.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

That's what I'm saying. Like, they know that they there's no that's why I think like they knew that this character would have been super popular, but I think if Mole would have been would not have been killed, would his would he have been as long lasting in your brain if he made it through more than one move, more than like if he had made it through multiple movies?

SPEAKER_04 35:53

Yeah, I think for me, he would have still been long last. It's not so much like okay, because I I see you more than once, you're no longer that impressive to me. I think it was just the look of him and seeing something for the last no 20-30 years uh before this movie came out, uh Phantom Ministers came out, it was always no one lightsaber, bong, bong, bong, whatever. But now you see a person with you know a dual-edged lightsaber using no uh uh uh different martial arts movements. It's not just all about you know hair and a solid you know kick placement. He's doing uh flips and everything else, really energetic and athletic. It captured my attention and probably a lot of other people's attention as well. Uh, and then you you turn that into uh just talking about just the films now. You turn that into um, I forgot the guy, the actor's name, but he no, the play count Duku, he's more of a fencer. So now he's got the curve hilt and he's no one-handed. Uh no, that's it's nice and all, but it's not the same as what was what we saw before because more wasn't you really using his force powers too much, but Dooku was using his to no pull environment pieces down um and stuff when he fought uh Obi-Wan and Anarchy. Um, I think also because Count Dooku was Christopher Lee.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

Christopher Lee was like what whose fault is that?

SPEAKER_01 37:11

Christopher Lee, no slander for Christopher Lee. That's what I'm saying. You're not gonna see Christopher Lee doing cartwheels and stuff like you saw uh Darth Moore doing it. But if Darthmore survived, we have when we look at Obi-Wan the same. No, he had to set Obi-Wan up to be somebody who's dangerous enough to actually be Anakin.

SPEAKER_04 37:34

So if if he didn't kill Obi, if he didn't kill um Darth Moore, because he hadn't we thought he did because of the film, but we know in the anime series he didn't kill him. Had um Darth Moore left. He killed uh Qui-Gon and he said something, I'll see you soon, and and departed. Would I think anything less of Darth of Obi-Wan?

SPEAKER_01 37:50

No, yeah, you would think lesser maybe Darth Vader, because it's like, okay, now there's somebody out there named Darth Moore who he didn't get beat by Obi-Wan. And not only did he not get beat by Obi-Wan, he took on two Jedi, where Darth Vader lost to one Jedi. Uh-huh. So I think they had to set it up to show you know that that chain. Um, Obi-Wan could be Darth Moore when he lets go. And then that justifies why he beat Darth Vader.

SPEAKER_04 38:18

I'm not saying he gotta beat this for all the way up into the new hope. I'm just saying he he could have they could at least give us Darth Moore for a little bit into the next move, into the uh into the next movie. What is it? Uh Clone Wars or Attack of the Clones or whatever. That he's gonna know he's gonna be he's gonna Obi-Wan could have fought him in the in the opening opening segment, kill him there, did still do the still do the the split in half maneuver on him. Ah caught you at it, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 38:43

He could have fought him in Cabino. He fought him there, and he would have fallen, no, cut him in half and fall into the water. So we think he drowned, but yet no, no, Palpatine rescued his body, still getting the robotic legs in the animated series. So he technically he still dies. No, Obi-Wan got two sis sis uh lords or princesses under his belt knocked out. I don't know. I mean, I don't think anything less of Obi-Wan if he had had he not killed him in the first movie. I'm not like, Oh, he can't kill, he killed your master. You ain't killed him in the he didn't get him back in the first movie. You were sucking nuts.

SPEAKER_00 39:13

I feel like it was like it was like that. Was the moment that you really him killing you in that movie is was was the point. Like you needed to see that, like it had it, it set Obi-Wan up to be this. You're like, okay, now you get why he's a good teacher for Luke.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Um why he survived out of all of that?

SPEAKER_00 39:38

Yeah, like that that needed to happen, and then that it needed to happen in that thing. Like if he would have, if it would have gone on to the next season, to the next movie, and then he would have just like it wouldn't have felt as it would have felt hollow of a kill, if that makes sense. It would have felt like Qui-Gon's death was wasn't as strong as as yeah, it was like it gave a really strong presence, and it just it wouldn't have done the same if he would have if he would have made it to the next movie and then it killed him. It would just be like, Oh, okay. Somebody gotta die.

SPEAKER_04 40:08

Yeah, basically. Somebody had, I mean, they could have maybe he took out Jar Jar. I don't know. Somebody had to die. Somebody had to die. Yeah, he said he took out Jar Jar. As he's on his way out, he just poke him real quick.

SPEAKER_03 40:22

Oh handy, misses it.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

We lose him. I think we just lost him.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

So we let's see. Uh, I think we lost Kareem here. I didn't touch anything. Kareem probably did something. He probably was just like, What happened, dude?

SPEAKER_01 40:39

What happened? I don't know. I guess I hit it when I was laughing. I hit a button. So hit it hit the back button and I went back to the login screen. I said, Oh, wait a second, I didn't touch nothing.

SPEAKER_04 40:55

No, it's free. No, but uh, yeah, I mean, uh it's a good conversation we can we had with in regards to Darth Mole. Um, I see still gonna be one of my favorite uh Sith Lords. Uh I mean there's other ones out there, but I think because of his his appearance and his uh unique abilities, and him being one of the first ones we see uh using a dual-wheeled no lightsaber, even though the Inquisitors have one that they just press the button that just spins like he's uh General Grievous. I I still like Darth Maul more. Uh yeah. I mean, even though General Grievous can like pop out those extra arms like he's Doc Ock and just be spinning them joints. It's not he's he also got killed by uh Obi-Wan. The Obi-Wan's he's out there racking up kills left and right.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Yeah, he is he was no joke.

SPEAKER_04 41:49

Yeah, I mean, even at the I think was before the Clone Wars, I forgot that the Star Wars and it might have been like the prequel to the stone to the Clone Wars. There was like five-minute cartoons that used to come on Cartoon Network before uh the Clone Wars movie came out, and that one was like you saw like you saw uh General Grievous when he was killing those other uh Jedi's, but you also saw the power of uh Mace Windu, you saw the power of uh uh of Yoda, like they were using the force to pull down hosts, you know, star destroyers. Like, yeah, you do all that, and then the live action they're just sitting on the couch. Yeah, we don't we recognize you as a knight, we're not gonna give you the uh the title of master. Like, come on, do something, baby. Come wait for them to do the thing, come on, yeah, yeah. But well, uh let's cut let's jump into the latest movie that came out, which was uh MJ, the Michael Jackson uh biography, Biopic. Um, I saw online that it's only supposed I think a part one of two, it may be a second one. This one was directed by Antoine Fouquet. Uh I'm eager to see it, but I don't think I'm willing to pay to see it. Like it's one of those things where we I think we're we've all agreed offline, like we've seen more than one iteration of the Michael Jackson story, whether it's the uh American Dream, the uh um uh TV movie series, or that other one that uh showed uh your boy uh homeboys in Out of Space Flex as both dark skinned and light skinned. Uh flex. Now, the first time an actor was uh doing a dramatic role in Whiteface. Uh no, no, it um I mean it doesn't exist. It's nice that they use an actual Jackson to represent Michael in this film. Um the trailer looks pretty good, but I don't know if there's anything in it that's going to make me surprise. Oh, I didn't know about this about him, but it's I remember him for his music and I I'm fine with that. So I I can wait till it shows up on streaming services.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

Um I'm interested in seeing the movie. But I I can't justify paying ticket prices for it. Um the the last movie I saw, the tickets went over a hundred dollars. Um yeah, because they they know which movies are going to be popular and they charge more for those.

SPEAKER_04 44:16

But this is also you you're not one ticket, one you're not just buying one ticket.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

Yeah, I'm not just buying one ticket. I know, you know, but again, they the the tickets for the hot movies, the first week, the second week they come out, they're higher, you know, for at least for the movies that I go to than the other tickets. And uh I'm not going to justify that. Not because I don't want to see it, not because we're not interested. But like you said, this is, you know, we live through a lot of this. So we saw a lot of this in real time. Um, there've been many series that we've watched, other movies that we've watched. But this is something that I can actually wait for. Um, I did hear a lot of good things about it in terms of, you know, the acting and the portrayal. Um, you know, you know, the focus is more on you know the positive aspects of his life because this is connected to the family in terms of the production, which makes perfect sense. Um you know, so I I I am just going to wait until it comes on streaming, or if I'm blessed to see it another way. Uh Captain Mikey. But but it is something I do want to see, and I'm sure it's better than that that last one where they had, you know, you know, Flex, you know, as Michael Jackson. Uh but you know, I'll just enjoy it vicariously through through others at this point in time.

SPEAKER_00 45:36

Yeah. Yeah, uh, I haven't seen it, but my sister saw, but my sister saw it, and she was like, Again, uh, she she's she liked the first 45 minutes, and she was like, Okay, that that's all I needed to really see. And then she was disappointed about where the movie stopped versus how it didn't go further. But I guess if it's supposed to be a set, there's supposed to be a second movie, that would probably be the rest of it past the um this is us tour. So it makes it past the Pepsi incident, right? Um, because I think no, yeah, because this all this this first one includes the Pepsi incident, so this like ends in like 88, in like like at the beginning of the bad tour.

SPEAKER_04 46:21

Okay, so this goes past the uh the Motown 50, the Pepsi incident. Okay, all right. So it's just like it has a thriller, so yeah, so it's before black and white, right?

SPEAKER_00 46:32

Like part of me is like if I'm slightly curious because it does look like I wasn't curious before, um, but uh it I I kind of almost I kind of want to see it, but at the same time like Jackson's an American dream was what I what I enjoyed, like that was good.

SPEAKER_04 46:51

No, no one was asking for this film, like it wasn't it wasn't like oh you know, I've been I haven't seen anything about Michael in a while. I hope they have a movie. No one was asking for this, right? Um, no, we still I still bopped his music, so it's not like uh I haven't listened to it, it's just it's not enough to draw up of interest for me. Um, because I think like I said, we live through, so it's not like as a as an individual, I'm not familiar with like this is the story of the four tops or the OJs. Let me find out the behind the scenes or some other character that uh maybe even a musician that lived during our time that I wasn't familiar with. Like if it was um so I was wouldn't pay to see it anyway. Like if it was uh um a Madonna or uh a Cindy Lauper, like these are people I've listened to, but it's not like I knew all about their intricate behind the scenes back personal life. Like I'm not interested 100% into knowing what went on behind the scenes anyway. So like in cream show, I'm not gonna spend $25 to $100 for food, you know, popcorn and everything else and ticket for two and a half, three hours of stuff I really don't care about. Like I'm just want to hear your disography. Sure, I'll go on. It could have been a Prince story. I don't know much about actually don't know really much about anything of as far as Prince's personal life behind the scenes. So don't give them, don't do not give them an idea because they will potentially say redo purple rent, like how much is the yes?

SPEAKER_00 48:16

That's exactly what they'll do. They'll start from him as a child, they'll go they'll redo purple rent. Someone, someone would do that. Stop Trevor Nolan as Prince.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Like, go get my change. As long as they have that line, I'll go see it again.

SPEAKER_04 48:34

I mean, it's um, I mean, that's a uh performer and uh a creator that um I only knew sparingly of some of his hits. So if I was to know more about his behind the scenes, do I want to pay to see it? Not really. I'll wait till it goes on, I'll wait till it goes online, I'll wait till it goes on stream, and I'll I'll check it. Then there's no rush for me to say, I gotta see this in the theater. The IMAX of of no of him doing that moonwalk, I gotta see this.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

No, but he but again, every so far from what people that I have that have seen it, they've said that Jafar Jackson does a great job playing his uncle. That's good.

SPEAKER_04 49:08

Yeah, I mean it probably didn't take much as far as prosthetics to make him look like him. Yeah, no, I'm so wondering what's going on with your boy. Uh uh, damn it. Which one is it? Which which Jackson is it? The one with the all slick back on the side Jermaine. Yeah, I need to pull that brother to the side, man. Come on, man. You got that shoe polish on the side of your scalp, that little piece of if it's not that's who that's that's who Jafar's dad is. He needs to pull him your pops.

SPEAKER_03 49:35

I can't have you come to the career looking like this.

SPEAKER_04 49:38

What you doing? All the elder Jacksons, they all Joe did a number of them because they're all out to lunch. I don't know if any of them are really coherent.

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Uh I don't know. Randy might be fine.

SPEAKER_04 49:53

Randy's the youngest one, I think. So he's uh it's maybe the youngest one. By that time, Joe Joe uh got tired of whooping up on those kids. So he got he got uh he got off Scott Free. A whooping hand is a little little little little sore. You you go like something out of boondas, you go pick a switch and beat yourself.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

But yeah, it's I don't know. I don't want it like I'm curious because it looks interesting. I'm curious because people are saying the acting the acting is really really well, but like people have not put in a bad performance in this movie, but at the same time, I'm just like I kind of don't care.

SPEAKER_04 50:40

Like I saw who they cast it as Diana Ross. I'm like, this is not this the woman looks nothing like Diana Ross.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

Wait, who's Diana Ross? Hold on.

SPEAKER_04 50:50

Like she wasn't even uh like the complexion-wise, like it's not even close. Oh, now I'm looking, I'm looking like who was Diana actress's name, but if you yeah, if you look up Diana Ross in the in the Michael Jackson movie, the actress.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

I don't know if she was in the actual movie.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

You said well, yeah, they cut her role out. She was um uh cat is it's um cat graham. Cat Graham?

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Really? No, I don't if it is Cat Graham. I if if it's cat graham, I could see Cat Graham putting in a good performance as Diana Ross.

SPEAKER_04 51:25

Yeah, I'm not saying that well, they cut her portion out, so that part so the mass the master didn't get to see it, but I'm just saying from uh look at the two pictures side by side of the two individuals, I'm like, I don't I don't see well hey Lorenz Tate was playing Barry Gordy, so I mean, but look at Barry look look at an old picture of Barry Gordy and look at Lorenz Tate with like from no, I don't know what you know makeup they put on him in the movie, but if you look at Lorenz Tate with just a little little fro and and a mustache and a full-on beard, you can look close. And I'm not expecting people to be a carbon copy, but something within the same a little bit closer, same yeah, same circle as to what that individual looked like would be fine.

SPEAKER_00 52:07

I don't know, but Lorenzate is 50 and still look like he's in his 30s or early 20s.

SPEAKER_04 52:12

That's that melanin, maybe he's he's on a maybe he's on that uh nutritional diet like uh Maya, where she's like in the I think she's in her 40s as well, 40s or 50s, but she's still looks like she's in her uh late uh early 30s, like she doesn't look like she aged any. Yeah, I think she's a vegan or something, but I digress. Uh Michael Jackson, if we see it, whether streaming or non-streaming, we'll we'll let you know what we thought of it. Uh Kim gave it two thumbs up because she saw it on the high seas. But so actually, my son Jaden, he saw it, he said he liked it, but um, he hasn't lived through Michael Jackson like we've lived through Michael Jackson. So this might actually be like new information for him, probably similar to people who've never listened to Queen Live and sort of the Freddie Mercury movie and then thought this was like accurate.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

Like, oh no, this is but isn't this the same people that brought you the Freddie Mercury movie?

SPEAKER_04 53:10

I don't know, and it may be it may very well be, but I know they really sanitized the that storyline either for brevity or for some other reasons. But I know a lot of the stuff that happened to Queen and happened to Freddie Mercury wasn't put into that film.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

It is, it's this it's the same person, Graham King, uh OBE. He did the he did the Bohemian Rhapsody. Yeah, so well now we know why he was sanitized.

SPEAKER_04 53:38

Well, maybe another five or five or ten years we'll get an Amy Winehouse film. Um, I mean, they're just we're just gonna we're just going down the line, so we might go get maybe there. Because that's gonna because she knows unfortunately she passed away, so that that gives some drama. So people may want to see how this is gonna play out on TV. So they may know.

SPEAKER_01 53:58

Yeah, yeah. You know, in my family, and there was a new music video coming out. You know, it was it was family time. You all sit there, you watch it together, you talk about it, you then try to copy it. So I mean it's like yesterday still. So it's like I I know how big some of these things, but we lived it. It wasn't like you know, uh get the get the blank VHS ready, hit record, ready, get ready, hit record, hit record. Epsy presents everything, like it was a it was an event every time, and I don't know how a movie would capture that accurately, but um you know, basically the life just felt like a movie at times.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

Yeah, I mean, uh what who's I mean, people sell out uh stadiums now, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, and these uh individuals they sell out stadiums, but you have Michael having like people passing out in the stands, he's walking to the street, or he got a whole you know police department following behind him in the streets to keep people away from him. Like it kind of reminds me like when the iShow Speed showed up in New York City and people running through uh Union Square to just to get close to his SUV, but on a bigger scale. Like, I mean, yeah, you would have been it would look like World War Z as far as the level of people outside if Michael Jackson was there back in the day. Like he's just walking the street and it'd have been no heads as far as the eye can see, just trying to get a glimpse of Michael Jackson. Um, whereas now it's like, oh, okay. I guess the thing is maybe it's because of social media, everyone's so accessible now. I don't have to sit at home and wait for that. Like Kareem said, I wait for the world premiere of thriller or black and white or remember the time to show up on on Fox News or something because I can just go on TikTok later on, I could just watch the watch the video there and keep it going about my day. It's a plus and a minus, you know. Because you're everywhere, it's no longer an importance to see you first somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 55:53

Yeah.

unknown 55:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Which is kind of sad.

SPEAKER_04 55:58

Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's that we that's a trade-off, you know. Because to have the world at in the palm of your hand, literally, uh, you trade off on certain uh uh things. But I think next week's episode we will cover uh is there a finale? No, there's no finale for uh the boys, but we'll we'll we can jump into the boys. Have you guys started watching paradise yet? No, that's a team.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

This is why I reacted this way. Um because uh the last time we talked, we mentioned like, oh yeah, paradise season two is out, is it's good so far. But yeah, I'm gonna get to it. I'm gonna get to it. I enjoy it. Love season one. Um, and you know, we're supposed to be taking nats um during the day as needed. Um first episode of season two, uh-huh. Last episode of season two, it's all seen in the same day. That's how good it was. Oh I need season three.

SPEAKER_04 57:04

Um we're gonna cover, we're gonna jump into we're gonna go to paradise next week. We're going to paradise paradise next week then.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

And the look on your face will tell me like you know, you don't watch it at all. I was like, No, it just blew my mind. I need that, I need that season three.

SPEAKER_04 57:20

Next week we're gonna jump into uh paradise.

SPEAKER_01 57:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:24

So you still got time, Kim.

SPEAKER_03 57:27

Okay, I will, I will.

SPEAKER_04 57:30

Just go on Wikipedia and look at the the show the episode recording.

SPEAKER_00 57:32

I'm already doing universal.

SPEAKER_04 57:36

I'm not gonna watch it, I'm gonna I'll just read about it. Let's be honest.

SPEAKER_00 57:38

If you ever see like a brightness on this side of my face, that means I have Wikipedia opened up and I'm reading something. So, like, but if it looks if it looks like this, there's nothing up there. The moment you see like it goes from this to this, I got Wikipedia.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

Yeah, but good to know.

SPEAKER_04 58:01

Good to know. See, you can see the reflection of our glasses, but you don't got glasses, so that's what that's just looking at.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

Like just light coming from inside, it's Wikipedia. Any other time the screen looks like this, and you're just like, wait, oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:18

Okay, so next week we're gonna jump into paradise and some other stuff. Uh, that's the end of our episode, so have a good one. This is Kay Krema Honey. Take care.